[8guawong]

https://www.gametracker.com/search/csgo/US/?

top 6 usa server does not have !ws / !glove etc.

(although it looks like one of sm moderator is hosting !ws / !glove servers?)

if you think just by adding !ws / !glove to your server title your server will be popular

why don't you use !ws / !gloves yourself?

[DarkDeviL]

Originally Posted by 8guawong (although it looks like one of sm moderator is hosting !ws / !glove servers?) if you think just by adding !ws / !glove to your server title your server will be popular why don't you use !ws / !gloves yourself?

Judging solely based on the server's hostname, I would say it seems like you're right.

Considering your other lines, I will consider to add !hamburger to the hostname of my servers from now on, hoping that they will then be much more popular than if I didn't!

[8guawong]

Originally Posted by arne1288 Judging solely based on the server's hostname, I would say it seems like you're right. Considering your other lines, I will consider to add !hamburger to the hostname of my servers from now on, hoping that they will then be much more popular than if I didn't!

i meant use the !ws/!glove plugin and then add !ws/!glove to the server name

but i know you knew what i meant

[ghostofmybrain]

Originally Posted by 8guawong https://www.gametracker.com/search/csgo/US/? top 6 usa server does not have !ws / !glove etc.

Look at what type they are, though. That's not exactly the same thing we were talking about here.

why don't you use !ws / !gloves yourself?

Because I don't want to attract that type of person to my server. I have no interest in a bunch of little kids who don't care about the game that I grew up playing coming into the server and being afk 80% of the round time while they look at their skins. I also don't care that my servers are empty 80% of the time because of it. The people who come in when I play are people I want to play with. They care about CS and they care about playing CS.

However, that doesn't change the fact that if you want to run a CS:GO community around the actual CS game, you need to run weapon skin plugins.

[Lubricant Jam]

Originally Posted by ghostofmybrain Because I don't want to attract that type of person to my server. I have no interest in a bunch of little kids who don't care about the game that I grew up playing coming into the server and being afk 80% of the round time while they look at their skins. I also don't care that my servers are empty 80% of the time because of it. The people who come in when I play are people I want to play with. They care about CS and they care about playing CS. However, that doesn't change the fact that if you want to run a CS:GO community around the actual CS game, you need to run weapon skin plugins.

I respect what you're trying to say but you're simply moaning as a whole. You say it's hard to create a community now-a-days because of these plugins but then you go on to say you don't want to attract those type of players to your community and that you don't care your servers are empty? This seems like an irrelevant conversation in that case.

I use these plugins on my servers as everyone else states, it's what the players want. It's our job as community owners to provide what the players want otherwise there wouldn't be an influx on players. Those "little kids" are what make up the game now, all of the retro players are starting to get bored of the low updates, shitty VAC & overall quality of the core game.

Valve will never listen to a measly reddit post, especially when they're making a lot of money from the sales of CS:GO copies that are needed to create tokens. Valve is in CS:GO for the money, nothing else. If you want to start a proper community then head over to TF2 where Gaben himself plays the game and it is a much more close net community with constant updates.

I personally felt the same when I moved to CS:GO from GMOD in the regards of it was hard to start without these plugins but it's honestly due to the fact the skin market is so diluted with expensive ass skins which are very hard to obtain via keys/cases and cost a lot of money so why would someone spend hundreds on some pixels on their screens when they can just join a server they like... and get them for free?

[fragnichtnach]

Originally Posted by Lubricant Jam [..]Valve will never listen to a measly reddit post, especially when they're making a lot of money from the sales of CS:GO copies that are needed to create tokens. Valve is in CS:GO for the money, nothing else.[..]

Let's say 50.000 servers are hosting !ws/!knife/!gloves what is a pretty high estimation (https://www.gametracker.com/search/csgo/)!

1 account = 1000 GSLT
50 accounts = 50.000 GSLT

3 bans a week = 150 accounts a week

one csgo account with an order of 5€ = 14€

2.100€ a week
109.200€ a year
This is an upper bound of the revenue they get from these !ws/!knife servers. I suppose a revenue far below 100.000$.

Honestly. It is not enough revenue for Valve that they are accepting this problem! I think they currently have other problems and simply don't care about this stuff.

Maybe they don't even know about those token-sell-sites and still think this is a good system. Yes, some of us wrote an email to them, but I suppose they are not reading them all. Too much spam. I know sometimes there is a Valve employee watching the reddit. I thaught that might bring this to there intention. But they have currently other problems by fighting against the gambling sites.

[Lubricant Jam]

Originally Posted by fragnichtnach Let's say 50.000 servers are hosting !ws/!knife/!gloves what is a pretty high estimation (https://www.gametracker.com/search/csgo/)! 1 account = 1000 GSLT 50 accounts = 50.000 GSLT 3 bans a week = 150 accounts a week one csgo account with an order of 5€ = 14€ 2.100€ a week 109.200€ a year This is an upper bound of the revenue they get from these !ws/!knife servers. I suppose a revenue far below 100.000$. Honestly. It is not enough revenue for Valve that they are accepting this problem! I think they currently have other problems and simply don't care about this stuff. Maybe they don't even know about those token-sell-sites and still think this is a good system. Yes, some of us wrote an email to them, but I suppose they are not reading them all. Too much spam. I know sometimes there is a Valve employee watching the reddit. I thaught that might bring this to there intention. But they have currently other problems by fighting against the gambling sites.

Not everyone uses the same account for GLST tokens. I get your point though nor did you really need to work it out. I was simply over exaggerating.

[fragnichtnach]

I think no one who is running a !ws/!knife server is continuesly creating new accounts. 99,9% are using the token-sites. So it is probably 1 acc = 1000GSLT = 1000 servers who violate the ToS.

[kreegola]

what are your thogh about the situetion now that valve pulled out invetory from csgo?

some of us paid csgo before it was free toplay and paid for those iteams and couldn't use them any more.
valve guide lines are not legaly obligations.