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Old 05-15-2016 , 21:20   Re: Freak Fortress 2 1.10.9 Released
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Hale bgm doesn't play in 1.10.10 (953e1a3).
Toggling hale_music on and off doesn't start it either.
This belongs in an issue instead of here since .10 isn't official, but that does strike me as odd as nothing was really changed since .9 was put out
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Old 05-16-2016 , 02:34   Re: Freak Fortress 2 1.10.9 Released
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This belongs in an issue instead of here since .10 isn't official, but that does strike me as odd as nothing was really changed since .9 was put out
Seeing as .9 can't be used because of the overlapping sound bug, .10 is really the only option. Fixing the sound bug in .10 seems to break BGM playback.

Only change that stands out to me is https://github.com/50DKP/FF2-Officia...96fccc8029e5f3. I'll try reverting it and see if that fixes it.
I'll report back.

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Old 05-16-2016 , 16:32   Re: Freak Fortress 2 1.10.9 Released
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Seeing as .9 can't be used because of the overlapping sound bug, .10 is really the only option. Fixing the sound bug in .10 seems to break BGM playback.

Only change that stands out to me is https://github.com/50DKP/FF2-Officia...96fccc8029e5f3. I'll try reverting it and see if that fixes it.
I'll report back.
I like experimenting in beta versions. This time though it's most likely because I was implementing the playMusic boolean while half-asleep.
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Old 05-25-2016 , 03:06   Re: Freak Fortress 2 1.10.9 Released
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isn't usable .sp need to be fixed. when compile with .sp chat print was multiple times

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Old 06-04-2016 , 02:17   Re: Freak Fortress 2 1.10.9 Released
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Update: LMFAO...I just saw this post now....not going to lie...was a long, late night for me My Bad.

@Darthmule - take a look in the mirror bud. Oh and I will be your friend?

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Old 06-04-2016 , 12:00   Re: Freak Fortress 2 1.10.9 Released
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I hope that as become to all "alliedmodders" that is not indeed case.

The self promotion etc has become unreal. If he OP is not going to maintain this plugin popularly it should be removed. The self advertise for $$$ as become all to obvious. Anyone who denies this...well what can we say....

Basically what I am saying they releasing known fail releases to pump their own server. I am NOT wrong. This is NOT the theme of "alllied mddders" as I understand it.

I do understand in general this place as fallen to the all might $$ like everything else but it is a shame.
I don't release beta versions publicly ("publicly" being on the first post). It's expected that there will be bugs in beta versions. That's not new.

As for "self-promotion"...I don't advertise FF2, nor have I asked anyone else to. This subforum existed before I was even a member. I don't accept donations and have earned a grand total of $0.00 for doing all of this. So I'm not really sure what you mean by "the self advertise for $$$ as become all to obvious".

"releasing known fail releases to pump their own server" - I don't run or own any servers, TF2 or otherwise.

Please do your research next time before accusing someone.

Edit: That's not to say that I don't regret releasing 1.10.9 without doing some more testing. I thought I had learned my lesson with that after 1.0.8, but I guess not.
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Old 06-04-2016 , 17:34   Re: Freak Fortress 2 1.10.9 Released
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I hope that as become to all "alliedmodders" that is not indeed case.

The self promotion etc has become unreal. If he OP is not going to maintain this plugin popularly it should be removed. The self advertise for $$$ as become all to obvious. Anyone who denies this...well what can we say....

Basically what I am saying they releasing known fail releases to pump their own server. I am NOT wrong. This is NOT the theme of "alllied mddders" as I understand it.

I do understand in general this place as fallen to the all might $$ like everything else but it is a shame.
For the record, new versions tend to take long to release as Wliu doesn't often have as much free time than others do.

As for bugs, we're only aware of them once someone actually reports them. There is usually a "grace period" in which any new bug reports can be made prior to a next version's release.

The lack of players on the test server hinder our ability to address issues quicker, as bots aren't often a reliable method to test beta versions.

The lack of coders willing to contribute to the Github repo also leaves several unaddressed issues yet to be uncovered.

This is solely done on free time, and not once has any profit been made.

While it is true that some fixes come from my FF2 fork, which have been thoroughly time tested with live players, the fixes NOT from my fork require thorough testing and reliability testing to ensure that everything works as intended. Depending on available contributors and testers, this can range from taking a few days to taking a few months.
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Old 06-06-2016 , 16:48   Re: Freak Fortress 2 1.10.9 Released
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I hope that as become to all "alliedmodders" that is not indeed case.

The self promotion etc has become unreal. If he OP is not going to maintain this plugin popularly it should be removed. The self advertise for $$$ as become all to obvious. Anyone who denies this...well what can we say....

Basically what I am saying they releasing known fail releases to pump their own server. I am NOT wrong. This is NOT the theme of "alllied mddders" as I understand it.

I do understand in general this place as fallen to the all might $$ like everything else but it is a shame.
What are you on about?

Here's a fun fact for you: A lot of people who write and maintain plugins don't actually bother to run their own servers any more.

Seriously, though, if you think you can do a better job writing a VSH / FF2 plugin, then why don't you?
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Old 06-06-2016 , 21:29   Re: Freak Fortress 2 1.10.9 Released
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If he OP is not going to maintain this plugin popularly it should be removed. The self advertise for $$$ as become all to obvious. Anyone who denies this...well what can we say.....
And your version of the plugin that fixes everything magically is where exactly?

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The lack of coders willing to contribute to the Github repo also leaves several unaddressed issues yet to be uncovered.
I just cba to actually try and find something useful to make, I just do little tweaks to random things

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Old 06-07-2016 , 05:49   Re: Freak Fortress 2 1.10.9 Released
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I have seen you make your own bosses back in the day when I used to come to your AntiCheatGamers community servers on a regular basis Mal0, but that aside.


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The self promotion etc has become unreal. If he OP is not going to maintain this plugin popularly it should be removed. The self advertise for $$$ as become all to obvious. Anyone who denies this...well what can we say....
There are many things wrong with this. First part is that Wliu and others never ask for donations, money or just anything in general. Your whole gaze of people being it for money is just flat out wrong. If anything, they do it to showcase their (good) content towards an audience. It being about "money" is a possiblity, yes, but thinking the worst out of anyone unless concrete proof is provided they are doing it for money is pretty rude.

Back in the day when I ran a reworked build of Freak Fortress 2 on Slag Gaming it was always full of players, it had a very strong and loving community and was guarded under the guidance that all bosses made should simply make sense. Looking back at this period was when I enjoyed changing the Freak Fortress 2 build to make buildings compatible on our bosses, custom weapons and other silly mechanics because people genuinely enjoyed it, they had fun. Now when I look at Freak Fortress 2 I think of servers that want me to download over 80 bosses, with more than half having no optimized files, because who doesn't love downloading Undertale and Five Nights At Freddy bosses with 16mb overlays, 8mb theme songs and 500kb quotes when you could reduce them to 1/4th with virtually no effort. And this part of "effort" is a big problem with Freak Fortress 2 user content in general.

I think Freak Fortress 2 is ruined because of how easy it is to make a boss, this being very easy adds a very big bridge between fun bosses people can put together and your generic "super jump, rage stun" boss reskins. People who make said fun bosses are heavily benefitting of this said problem, which is not the fault of the players or people who put their time and effort making any kind of content for this plugin. It is simply how stuff works.


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Basically what I am saying they releasing known fail releases to pump their own server. I am NOT wrong. This is NOT the theme of "alllied mddders" as I understand it.
This is a very bold and quite dumb claim to make towards people who have put their time into maintaining and rewriting a mess of a plugin into what it is today. If anything you could be doing your own changs to make a (new) release and share it (or not) with the community.

Being completely reliant on this public subforum to get bosses, abilities and other stuff is, in my opinion, pretty bad. Freak Fortress 2 has been built to allow people to easily create bosses. Like a Soldier boss who shoots rockets in a barrage while playing Pharah's "Justice rains from above" quote is one idea out of the thousands.

You are wrong.


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I do understand in general this place as fallen to the all might $$ like everything else but it is a shame.
Who is stopping you to go after "dat $$$" if according to you everybody is doing it? Nobody is. As Powerlord says:

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Seriously, though, if you think you can do a better job writing a VSH / FF2 plugin, then why don't you?
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