hey Silvers, been awhile, how u been...i've been getting back into L4D2 again and discovered that actually going thirdperson with a script works better than the thirdperson mode in your plugin....if i set the crawling/animation speed too high third person no longer activates, however if i force myself third person it works flawlessly...maybe u could somehow build it into your plugin or combine a third person plugin maybe...I dunno, let me know what u think...