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backlash
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Old 06-11-2007 , 06:23   Rate changing questions
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Hi everyone, just wanting an answer about rates. I have sent ages searching about rates but cannot find the answer to my questions
I have a few admins on our server who are always asking people to change their rates.
Should I install a plugin to change these automatically when people join OR is setting the correct rates in the server.cfg file enough.
This is what I have in the server.cfg on the server

sv_maxrate 30000
sv_minrate 10000
sv_maxupdaterate 101
sv_minupdaterate 50
sv_maxunlag 0.5
sv_mincmdrate 50
sv_maxcmdrate 101

Will this only allow the client to use values within these limits? or do I still need to change the values on the client side?

If I do need to install a plugin, what one would you recommend?
I only have metamod and mani installed on the server.
Thanks for your time
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FlyingMongoose
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Old 06-11-2007 , 09:28   Re: Rate changing questions
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There are server cvars that force a range of rates on the client.

There are no plugins that will change the rate of a player anymore.
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backlash
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Old 06-11-2007 , 16:49   Re: Rate changing questions
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So regardless of what a client has their rates set at, the server will only deliver between the rate values set in the server.cfg?

So I don't need to worry about what clients have their rate set too?
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Old 06-11-2007 , 18:37   Re: Rate changing questions
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I need to remember the specific cvars to force rate limitations on clients, but they are there (I think they're sv_cl_*) * representing anything

But yes, the server itself should enforce a range. Valve enacted this a few updates ago.
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Old 12-06-2007 , 10:45   Re: Rate changing questions
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Is this really works?
Cause I have set up everything
(25k 101 101 min and max too)
but players still have other rates, if i watch thier rates with other plugins...
Can somebody do a simple mm plugin to exec the perfect rates in every X seconds on clients?
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Old 12-06-2007 , 11:14   Re: Rate changing questions
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Is this really works?
Cause I have set up everything
(25k 101 101 min and max too)
but players still have other rates, if i watch thier rates with other plugins...
Can somebody do a simple mm plugin to exec the perfect rates in every X seconds on clients?
If you force everyone to use 101 and nothing lower you're gonna get tons of choke / lag. Not every server can handle that kind of bandwidth, and certainly a lot of players aren't gonna be able to run that without getting large amount of choke / loss.

I suggest you read my article on rates here before you enforce rates that high.

http://www.aoagaming.org/index.php?page=rates
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Old 12-06-2007 , 11:19   Re: Rate changing questions
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Those settings will set the clients to 25K, 101, 101. But it won't change the actual value of the cvar on the client, as far as I know. It's a dynamic change behind the scenes.
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KMFrog
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Old 12-07-2007 , 04:16   Re: Rate changing questions
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The valve solution seams to only half work - but it does make a difference when setup correctly to the "overall" performance of a server.

Players are still able to drop their update rates to artificially reduce their latency - so it appears its not completely effective at forcing update values.

Whether or not a player can effect their hit reg is another question...
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