[Malachi]

In TF2 on push/pull maps, I would like to check if sudden death is enabled in the map, then have the option to trigger it.

So far, I've found that the game_round_win entity is where this is controlled. I can find if there is a game_round_win entitiy with this:

    i_RoundWin = FindEntityByClassname(-1, "game_round_win");

But after that I'm not sure where to go. I can look at:

        data = GetEntProp(i_RoundWin, Prop_Data, "m_bSwitchTeamsOnWin");

to see if the teams will get switched when rounds end, but looking through the data map doesn't give me any clues. I figure its here somewhere.

CBaseEntity - game_round_win - m_bForceMapReset (Save|Key)(1 Bytes) - force_map_reset - m_bSwitchTeamsOnWin (Save|Key)(1 Bytes) - switch_teams - m_iWinReason (Save|Key)(4 Bytes) - win_reason - InputSetTeam (Input)(0 Bytes) - SetTeam - InputRoundWin (Input)(0 Bytes) - RoundWin - m_outputOnRoundWin (Save|Key|Output)(0 Bytes) - OnRoundWin ...

Any help appreciated!

[Powerlord]

game_round_win doesn't do anything on its own, it's usually called from a team_round_timer or team_control_point.

Having said that, I'm pretty sure that sudden death is controlled by the map type and also by server cvars. Sudden Death occurs on these map types if they have a clock: CTF, 5cp, TC, and Payload Race. However, it can be disabled by setting mp_stalemate_enable 0 in server.cfg.

I'm not sure if the GameRules m_nGameType netprop can tell you whether sudden death will happen or not. The last time I checked, it treated both cp types as the same GameType.

Edit: Apparently Sudden Death is caused by maps having a team_round_timer that makes team 0 (Unassigned) win when time runs out, either via a game_round_win for them or (more likelky) through team_control_point_master's SetWinner(0). Which is basically impossible to detect.

[friagram]

You could do something corny like check if the cvar is enabled, and then hook sound for the sudden death sfx... Its not like the server would play the sudden death wav file at any other time.

If you want to force sudden death to happen, you could probably spawn a team control point master and send it a stalemate win input, or spawn/set the time on a team round timer to 1 wile also setting the scores to 0.

Tf has a lot of special rules where something will,only happen sometimes under certain circumstances. If you want it to happen every time, you have to set up the framework for it to happen every time, and then trigger it when you need it.

[Powerlord]

Originally Posted by friagram You could do something corny like check if the cvar is enabled, and then hook sound for the sudden death sfx... Its not like the server would play the sudden death wav file at any other time.

He doesn't want to detect when Sudden Death start, but if sudden death would occur on a map. Incidentally, if you do want to detect when Sudden Death actually starts, you'd hook the teamplay_suddendeath_begin event.

[Malachi]

Originally Posted by Powerlord game_round_win doesn't do anything on its own...

From looking at entities in the SDK/Hammer, it looks like game_round_win has the map setting to enable/disable sudden death.

Originally Posted by Powerlord ...it can be disabled by setting mp_stalemate_enable 0...

A cvar is easy to check/change - even if that change is temporary.

Originally Posted by Powerlord I'm not sure if the GameRules m_nGameType netprop can tell you whether sudden death will happen or not. The last time I checked, it treated both cp types as the same GameType.

Forgot about tf_gamerules - it has the setting for 'CTF Overtime'. But I don't think that's the same as sudden death.

Originally Posted by Powerlord ...through team_control_point_master's SetWinner(0). Which is basically impossible to detect.

It might be enough to be able to trigger it - even if I have to resort to making a list of maps it works on.

[Malachi]

Originally Posted by friagram ...you could probably spawn a team control point master and send it a stalemate win input...

Well, that sounds potentially unreliable.

I'll keep it in mind, tho.

[friagram]

Spawning a game win or tcpm and sending thoseinputs will trigger a game win and scoreboard screen to show for sure. It was stalemating and going to overtime for me when i was developing my freezetag plugin on payload maps, very irritating.