hi, tonblader. thanks for the reply.
so my issue is not that i can't get all 8 survivors: i can spawn all 8 survivors (l4d1&2) on any other map and i can play the helm's deep map with 8 players as long as i'm only using the l4d2 survivor set (with lux's character manager).
my question was if it was possible to have both l4d1&2 survivors in the helms deep map - it can spawn the l4d1 survivors but you can't take over them; they kind of just stand there and don't move:
i'm assuming it's the same issue that occurs during the passing campaign if you use all 8 survivors since they also spawn l4d1 npcs? (though i've never experienced this issue since i use lux's passing stripper fix).
any help would be appreciated.