Thanks for your response. to be honest i tried allot of plugins for l4d2 already and 4 out of the bunch jumps out at me directly and i know for sure i tried them already. but none of them would give me the flexibility of this teammanager plugin's going to, i would have to use 3 or so plugins to get what teammanager would do. i just really want this to work and im sorry to be a bother but thanks for your response and continued help.
By the way im hosting a 4v4 server and 8 coop.
I like this plugin thanks for the link.
[L4D2] Versus handicap/Aggressive Director