[Bongholio]

Please calm down.

I am calm.

SourceMod, SourceMM, and this forum is a product of a collaboration.

I've been coming here 2 years I think I know what this place is.
I have also helped troubleshoot a few L4D and L4D2 mod bugs and offered suggestions and EVEN provided a solution or two(so I don't have donor status woo woo).

Let me give you a news flash by the way: People probably hated playing on your server. It is very unlikely that you were able to operate a server better than a dedicated machine.

You cannot conceive to know my 100 or so players or evaluate their in game experience.
I never said it played better.
Some have good enough response & we played very frequently over a LONG period of time.
Ones who couldn't achieve such a experience left on their own
accord.Who would play on a server where you are constantly warping and missing shots or waking up dead?
Remember, even XBOX

Excuse me I have no interest in xbox I use the PC version only.
Really why would I whine about sourcemod and metamod not
working when they never worked on that type of gameplay from day 1?
EXCEPT when valve comes here and converts OUR BELOVED MODS into mutations for the controller sect of players in the process breaking everything that has been done by this community. Requiring further complete rebuilds and re-installs of all that has already been accomplished by our beloved modders and residents.

If you really enjoy running a game server, dedicate a machine or rent a server. People don't do it because they are stupid, they do it because they know it is the best experience for the community.

I really do.The listen coop server served me just fine
and now it's gone.Seeking other host based solutions.
Help me or go bother someone else.

I am not renting a server
valve and steam ALREADY HAS MY $100,...
+ hours of re-installs and configging since the last 3 or so major update have broken source and meta in both games.
$50 an hour would be sweet to be able to charge them back for every broken thing their NEW AND IMPROVED DLC caused.
(WTF I can still host EA games BF1942 desert combat
local coop FROM 2004) I want to play with my extensive list of
pre-existing game contacts in USER Bongholio666's friends list.
From the same PC I play on.Since valve has removed L4D &2 listen servers.
This is an impossibility.
I have no real interest in serving the GREATER COMMMUNITY.
I could care less if my locally hosted game ever sends a heartbeat to a valve master again.
JUST LET ME INVITE MY FRIENDS.

PS
STEAM TOOLS ONLY SHOWS ME
L4D Dedicated server,.... as uninstalled (everything is uninstalled)
Nothing about L4D2 what gives?

Just put L4D & 2 back in a few days ago no extra downloads CLEAN INSTALL.


NO MORE DRAMA LOCK THIS THREAD
How do I get this going?PM me if you have answer
Personally tired of illiterate off topic pedantic responses from "the genius donors" belittling me in public.
I just asked a question from a layman's level all I get is
CALM DOWN MAN
Well nobodies helping,valve's "upgrades" break everything.
Someone should grasp my dilemma and guide me to a solution.
Or just let it fade,...

Breakdown (couldn't search an answer)
is it possible to run a dedicated L4D or L4D2 server
WITH SOURCEMOD and METAMOD and a client of either edition on the same machine over the net?