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Daniell_ 01-24-2007 03:20

Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
24 mb/sec 100mb cable and 1.81 Ghz, 768 MB RAM, Windows XP + SP2, 100 GB free space,

Well this is pretty annoying, but..
I have AMXX + Metamod + SH + Team Balance + Stat me + GameGuard + PodBot (not always).
And when i play on the server (accessing through global ip) its fine (even with my bots), but when other players from out of my town joins. BIG LAGG.. is there a solution to this?

I tryed Ping Booster but it made it lagg more...

Oh. btw i have windows firewall off and i got Norton SystemWorks(it has inbuilt firewall, is that making any difference?)

10Stars 01-24-2007 03:52

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
rent a server.

I dont know why you guys really attempt to host a server with mods on it off of a cable connection.

6pack 01-24-2007 06:51

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 10Stars (Post 430953)
rent a server.

I dont know why you guys really attempt to host a server with mods on it off of a cable connection.


There is nothing wrong with most peoples cable connection. I run a 28 slot server with no lag running 20 3rd party plugins on Roadrunner.

@Daniell_

What is your upload speed?
Norton does take up a lot of resources.

10Stars 01-24-2007 08:01

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 6pack (Post 430981)
There is nothing wrong with most peoples cable connection. I run a 28 slot server with no lag running 20 3rd party plugins on Roadrunner.

@Daniell_

What is your upload speed?
Norton does take up a lot of resources.

Have you ever had 28 people on your server, i doubt it.

6pack 01-24-2007 08:07

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 10Stars (Post 430993)
Have you ever had 28 people on your server, i doubt it.

26 was the most I have seen so far SO yea you are right

Lee 01-24-2007 13:26

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
Quote:

24 mb/sec 100mb cable
Ummm, what? I'm guessing you're short of upload bandwidth.

[ --<-@ ] Black Rose 01-24-2007 13:48

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniell_ (Post 430945)
1.81 Ghz

1.81 doesn't say much. What kind of processor?

6pack 01-24-2007 15:10

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee (Post 431089)
Ummm, what? I'm guessing you're short of upload bandwidth.

You need good upload speed to run a server. He does not have 100mb up, thats up-surd

TheNewt 01-24-2007 21:59

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
6pack you brought up a good point...
Quote:

24 mb/sec 100mb cable
1 Gig Ethernet card...
1 Gig ethernet switch...
Cat 6/1g ethernet cable...
But I thought internet goes only 700kb upload/3meg download commericially, and that the T3 connection was 3mb up and download...
*scratch scratch*

6pack 01-24-2007 22:08

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
This is my speed which like said in the above post of mine....causes no lag



Last Result:
Download Speed: 12877 kbps
Upload Speed: 945 kbps

el hippo 01-25-2007 02:54

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 6pack (Post 431275)
Last Result:
Download Speed: 12877 kbps
Upload Speed: 945 kbps

That is some incredible cable bandwidth. The best RR speeds I get here (with the max package) is about 512kbit upload. That equates to 64kbytes upload with no tcp and routing overhead. According to my calculations, using the standard 4kbyte - 5kbyte minimum per player upload rate, your connection does, in theory, support your max player setting of 26.

Now back to the main topic about reducing lag. Remember that the average cs client will need about 4kbytes of upload from the server to maintain a lag free gaming environment. To get the exact usage use net_graph 4 or a similar command and take a look at the bandwidth usage.

As for 24mbit cable. It is possible under the any of the cablelabs docsis standards. Only problem is that most home routers cannot handle this. Not only this, but most providers probably won't supply this speed to the end user.

DOCSIS Downstream Upstream
1.0 38 Mbps 10 Mbps
2.0 40 Mbps 30 Mbps
3.0 160 Mbps 120 Mbps

As for the core internet speed: The internet runs really really fast. The school district that I used to attend has a dual fiber connection that gives them over 100mbits symmetric internet access. I administered 2 servers on gigabit ethernet connections on the high school campus and was able to obtain things like the entire fedora core install dvd in about 10 minutes. I remember getting a peak of 10 mbytes / sec download / upload. (Of course this is using the latest cisco routers with fiber backbones within the school district).

Hippo

Daniell_ 01-25-2007 12:24

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
Sry for not answering on a time, but i got some more info ^^
With Norton ON:
Quote:

Down:3.29 mb/s Up:2.89 mb/s
With Norton OFF:
Quote:

Down:3.30 mb/s Up:2.90 mb/s
And for [ --<-@ ] Black Rose
Quote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniell_ http://forums.alliedmods.net/images/...s/viewpost.gif
1.81 Ghz

1.81 doesn't say much. What kind of processor?
AMD Sempron(tm) Processor

[ --<-@ ] Black Rose 01-25-2007 12:43

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniell_ (Post 431512)
AMD Sempron(tm) Processor

Hmm... well, Sempron isn't really the best processor, but would probably run a server...
Are you playing on the server on the same computer?

Daniell_ 01-25-2007 13:16

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
It happens, never tested without playing on server (will test now)

Daniell_ 01-25-2007 13:32

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
I got it working now, but can i run 2 servers at one computer the same time with no lagg?

Other players joined but they made it lagg.. when my friend was playing it wasn't lagging.. but when i kicked the "laggers" he could play again, is this a connection prob or a comp prob?

blackops7799 01-25-2007 20:26

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
My recommendation... don't host a server...

I can run two 32 man servers full with no lag though...


AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor
3700+
2.20 GHz, 1.50 GM of RAM2

Download Speed: 5021 kbps (627.6 KB/sec transfer rate) (4.9 Mb/sec)
Upload Speed: 1448 kbps (181 KB/sec transfer rate) (1.4 Mb/sec)

I just had to.

<snipped pic>

TheNewt 01-25-2007 20:35

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Quote:

Down:3.30 mb/s Up:2.90 mb/s
still kicks the ass out of my internet speed. :P

Daniell_ 01-26-2007 02:33

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
so u recommend that i buy a new processor?

Daniell_ 01-26-2007 17:36

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
What processor do you recommend? for hosting and for playing games..
Not to expensive plz

TheNewt 01-26-2007 22:44

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
nice bump, read the rules :D

Quote:

Cover your stump, before you hump.
Bump those Lumps you Humping Stump!

10Stars 01-26-2007 23:52

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
100 mb upload would be over 1000$ a month unless your renting it from a company like CI host etc. You do not have a 100mb upload connection from your local home, garunteed.

sawce 01-27-2007 00:00

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
The lag from your server is, most likely, coming from it being hosted on your home cable connection.

Either rent a server, or deal with it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10Stars
garunteed

kekekekekekekeke

[ --<-@ ] Black Rose 01-27-2007 12:32

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniell_ (Post 431545)
I got it working now, but can i run 2 servers at one computer the same time with no lagg?

Other players joined but they made it lagg.. when my friend was playing it wasn't lagging.. but when i kicked the "laggers" he could play again, is this a connection prob or a comp prob?

Probably a sempron isn't enough to run a server and play at it on the same computer. I had problems and i have a 3.0 P4, 2mb L2, wich is a bit more than a sempron.. ( i think sempron has like 128 or 256 kb L2 cache )

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10Stars (Post 432076)
100 mb upload would be over 1000$ a month unless your renting it from a company like CI host etc. You do not have a 100mb upload connection from your local home, garunteed.

In Sweden 100/100 fiber connection is about $40/month.

Twilight Suzuka 01-27-2007 12:37

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 10Stars (Post 432076)
100 mb upload would be over 1000$ a month unless your renting it from a company like CI host etc. You do not have a 100mb upload connection from your local home, garunteed.

You are an idiot.

SnowdeM 01-27-2007 14:14

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
LOL true

Daniell_ 01-27-2007 15:35

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
Well can u answer my quistion? ^^
Should i buy a new processor?
If so, What do you recommend

vvg125 01-27-2007 16:51

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sawce (Post 432078)
The lag from your server is, most likely, coming from it being hosted on your home cable connection.

No matter how impressive you computer is, you need better internet speed.

el hippo 01-27-2007 19:21

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
Simply look at the cpu and memory usage. Also check for crazy HD activity. These things will tell you if its the computer or the network connection.

In my experience, running a server on windows generally requires less cpu / memory than running one on a linux server. I have run a 20 player CS server on a 1.6ghz amd with 768mb ram with no problems.

In any case, home internet connections are somewhat iffy since they are not always perfect. They may be fast, but packet loss, cheap routing, can cause problems. Thats why I used a dedicated 3.2ghz p4 HT with 2gb ram on a 100mbit pipe (burstable to 100mbit, with 10mbit guaranteed) located in a real datacenter for my gaming servers.

Hippo

10Stars 01-27-2007 23:23

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sawce (Post 432078)
The lag from your server is, most likely, coming from it being hosted on your home cable connection.

Either rent a server, or deal with it.


kekekekekekekeke


OH NOES, SAWCE FOUND OUT I CNT SPELX :|

vvg125 01-28-2007 00:14

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
My LAN server currently runs on a 5 year old computer with 128 mb RAM, and p3 proc and run just fine with about 6 or 7 people...

Daniell_ 01-28-2007 04:10

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
Well i discoveried that it might be my internet, we just got a 24mb/s and i just got a cable..
BUT, when i run the server, my comp does fine, i can play other games same time.

vvg125 01-28-2007 04:12

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
Cable can't host a decent server... At least road runner can't. Almost all computers nowadays can host an HLDS server just fine with nearly no lag provided you have the right internet connection.

Daniell_ 01-28-2007 04:14

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
are you swe, cus if so i can explain more exacly

vvg125 01-28-2007 04:16

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
What do you mean by am I sure? I'm just pointing out I once tried to host a server on a road runner cable internet connection at my cousin's house. They weren't home that week so no one was using the internet. The server did fine till about the 7th or 8th person, then the ping started going to around 200-300 for most people.

Daniell_ 01-28-2007 04:17

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
not sure, SWE(swedish)

vvg125 01-28-2007 04:21

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
LMAO thought it was a typo. No I'm in the USA and I'm not swedish.

Daniell_ 01-28-2007 04:29

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
aww.. but ill try, i got a "line", "wire" that is plugged in the back of my comp, to a hub and the hub is connected to a router and then the router is plugged out to the station (bout 10 meters from our house).
Can you see any connection issue in this lineup?

6pack 01-28-2007 04:36

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vvg125 (Post 432577)
Cable can't host a decent server... At least road runner can't. Almost all computers nowadays can host an HLDS server just fine with nearly no lag provided you have the right internet connection.

Are you insane?
http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthr...275#post431275
And that is with 28 slots with roadrunner

vvg125 01-28-2007 04:39

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
Wow, either the internet connection had something wrong or yours was really really good... I'm just saying what I know.

6pack 01-28-2007 04:43

Re: Is there a way to turn server NO lagg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vvg125 (Post 432588)
Wow, either the internet connection had something wrong or yours was really really good... I'm just saying what I know.

Its all about upload speed. Improve that and your server will run fine


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