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striker07 05-12-2012 15:20

hudmessage to long?
 
hey,
I made a lil infohelp Hudmenu that appears when players enter the server to see what client commands they all can use but i think its to long.
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Just an idea but could it work if I work with format? every line in a new format then that format i put in show_hudmessage(id, "%s^n%s^n%s.... , format1, format2, format3)
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And finally after tons of try's and testing I got it working.
Its not 100% efficient but it does the job
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Hunter-Digital 05-12-2012 19:43

Re: hudmessage to long?
 
Why not print it in the console ? I find HUD messages verry eye iritating to read when in huge amounts and they're verry unreliable, they get reset when player respawns and stuff like that... you also can't make them go away with a simple key press like you can do with the console and you can't review it without retyping the command... so just use the console :P

Also, nobody cares about admin commands if they're not admin, so check if player is admin when you want to print admin specific commands.

striker07 05-13-2012 06:05

Re: hudmessage to long?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hunter-Digital (Post 1707776)
Why not print it in the console ? I find HUD messages verry eye iritating to read when in huge amounts and they're verry unreliable, they get reset when player respawns and stuff like that... you also can't make them go away with a simple key press like you can do with the console and you can't review it without retyping the command... so just use the console :P

Also, nobody cares about admin commands if they're not admin, so check if player is admin when you want to print admin specific commands.

Printing in console is not very effective becous if players dont know how to bring that up or if they dont know its there then its just useless in my opinion, now when pklayers connect they see it every time so they will know every command they can use to optimal enjoi the server and use all its functions.

thats right but the hud message only stays for 20 seconds, if they want to read thats at least the minimum time they willneed to read it entirely, they can always type help again to bring it up when they need it unlike displaying it in console.

for the admin part you are most certainly right, I might change that but then users dont know what the main important commands are for that server when they buy an admin offer.
its just a lil advertising :p

Hunter-Digital 05-13-2012 11:08

Re: hudmessage to long?
 
How about the plugin tells them to look in the console when they join ? :) If they care about the commands, they'll look.
And why 'unlike console' for reprinting ? That logic is flawed.

But I see, that server is just a buisness, that's why you shove a 20 second huge message down their.. screen :)
You seem to've solved the problem in the title so anyway.

striker07 05-13-2012 14:06

Re: hudmessage to long?
 
hehe lol not really I do this for fun, its my hobby but with a bill of in the 350€ every 6 months it's always welcome that players donate some money or that I can at least recover a small part of that money.

alot of ppl ask me to give them admin, so i say to them if you want admin you can buy it.
when they buy it then I can have a lot more thrust (or however you say it) in that person that he will not abuse that admin and drift away new players.

you gotta tell me: isnt it better that when you join a server that you know what the server has, so that you can play with everything the server has to offer?
I admit some players prefer finding that stuff on their own but lately not many players still play cs so for new starting clans it's pretty lonely once and a while on the servers :p

Yep fixed it, works but on the hns server with jumpstats it is everything but efficient since the hudmessage goes away whenever you jump :). but its good enough for me :)

Hunter-Digital 05-13-2012 18:30

Re: hudmessage to long?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by striker07 (Post 1708314)
alot of ppl ask me to give them admin, so i say to them if you want admin you can buy it.
when they buy it then I can have a lot more thrust (or however you say it) in that person that he will not abuse that admin and drift away new players.

Well, IMO, anybody that BUYS their status considers they are entitled to do whatever they want, even abuse... so no, paying for admins will actually do the opposite of what you'd think. I know that from experience with various servers including my own where I kinda never charged for admins and everybody was cool, as in another server that you got admin for money was a total chaos, admins would just ban anyone they didn't like, they'd start fights even between themselves... it was too much political reality for me (corruption, backstabbing and self interest), that's what money does to people =)

Quote:

Originally Posted by striker07 (Post 1708314)
you gotta tell me: isnt it better that when you join a server that you know what the server has, so that you can play with everything the server has to offer?
I admit some players prefer finding that stuff on their own but lately not many players still play cs so for new starting clans it's pretty lonely once and a while on the servers :p

Yep fixed it, works but on the hns server with jumpstats it is everything but efficient since the hudmessage goes away whenever you jump :). but its good enough for me :)

Yes but I would like for that information to not cover my entire screen as I play... but it seems that jumpstats mistakenly taked care of that, altough it's not the best solution but at least you can get rid of the message when alive.

striker07 05-13-2012 18:58

Re: hudmessage to long?
 
Thats an interesting theory, I'l keep that in mind :).
maybe i'm only gonna give admin to ppl I know and are not corrupt as you say.

I once gave admin 4 free to a some1 I knew and he destroyed my entire forum and tryed to mess up my servers wich off course he couldnt.
it took me a while to clean up his mess.

the hudmessage is not in the middle of the screen its centered to the right as much as possible.
I was also thinking of making it into a modt so that I can explain more how to use some commands and stuff,
off course a motd has its downsides to.
I'l see how it goes with the hudmessage.

fysiks 05-14-2012 00:06

Re: hudmessage to long?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by striker07 (Post 1708502)
I once gave admin 4 free to a some1 I knew and he destroyed my entire forum and tryed to mess up my servers wich off course he couldnt.
it took me a while to clean up his mess.

That just means you didn't really know him.

striker07 05-14-2012 16:35

Re: hudmessage to long?
 
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Originally Posted by fysiks (Post 1708566)
That just means you didn't really know him.

No not just that, I met him a couple times in real life.
It just means he's A F'ing lowlife turd.

OvidiuS 05-14-2012 17:37

Re: hudmessage to long?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by striker07 (Post 1708314)
hehe lol not really I do this for fun, its my hobby but with a bill of in the 350€ every 6 months

You are crazy. Where are your servers hosted? Which country?


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