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YamiKaitou 12-21-2009 11:41

Need help determining your rates? Look Here
 
Okay, since I am tired of people making topics asking what rates they should use instead of searching for their own answers, I am making 1 topic for all rate help topics. So, if you need help figuring out what rates you should have, post here but read through the thread first as there will most likely be useful links posted by others.

Any threads that are made asking about rates will be trashed or merged into this one (depends on my mood when I see it).


If helpful links/posts are made, I will link to them in this thread so others can hopefully see it without re-asking it


Sites to help calculate your rates:
http://www.reece-eu.net/drekrates.php

Sites to test your internet speed:
http://www.speedtest.net/

Sepehr 12-22-2009 00:26

Re: Need help determining your rates? Look Here
 
This is a great website to use to calculate your rates :

http://www.reece-eu.net/drekrates.php

To calculate your internet speed :

http://www.speedtest.net/

:up:

kr4nk 12-24-2009 15:36

Re: Need help determining your rates? Look Here
 
I want to know what rates should i set .. :)

Here's My Internet Speed

bmann_420 12-28-2009 12:20

Re: Need help determining your rates? Look Here
 
Put your speed into the calculator... Thats why the link is their.

botik 01-07-2010 06:36

Re: Need help determining your rates? Look Here
 
How i can test my internet speed if my server is linux? :)

bmann_420 01-08-2010 02:10

Re: Need help determining your rates? Look Here
 
What? Linux has nothing to do with you bandwidth speed.

Hammerfallerz 01-08-2010 04:36

Re: Need help determining your rates? Look Here
 
I believe he's having hard time to go to the website via linux.
On windows you can just type www.speedtest.net in a web browser and see results.
But also I dont have any idea to how to that on linux (ubuntu 7), so I'd pretty happy if someone would told me how to do it.

I've set up rates depending on our PC and approx. bandwith that ISP promised, but I do experience slight lags in-game (and it's not PC problem, it's damn powerful to hold holy crapload of servers)

YamiKaitou 01-08-2010 07:11

Re: Need help determining your rates? Look Here
 
Linux has a internet browser as well.... Unless you don't have any GUI stuff and it is only CLI.

8088 01-10-2010 19:56

Re: Need help determining your rates? Look Here
 
Why would anyone with only the CLI at his/her disposal be unsure about the available bandwidth? If you're running a server on a machine at home with the CLI only, you probably have another, GUI-enabled computer on which you can do all kinds of silly tests. If your server is located in a datacenter, you hopefully know what you're paying for.

Anyway, if you only have the CLI, you can use wget, ftp or mc and many many more programs.

Falafel 02-03-2010 08:36

Re: Need help determining your rates? Look Here
 
Hi,

The calculate is not working !! :(
I need help for my server.cfg in cz

dedicated server with teamspeak
AMD Athlon XP 2700
2.16 Ghz
1.00 Go Ram

Download : 18.48 Mb/s
Upload : 0.85 Mbps

Thank you for your help for my rate and all configuration for server.cfg

Thank you

Duffnexter 03-03-2010 02:53

rates
 
i try http://www.reece-eu.net/drekrates.php
but they didnt fix their cores so im asking if someone can give me right rates for my server here is my box performance:
8 GB Ram
32 slots
100 MBPS
Quad-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2376 2.5Ghz

YamiKaitou 03-03-2010 10:55

Re: rates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Duffnexter (Post 1106145)
i try http://www.reece-eu.net/drekrates.php
but they didnt fix their cores so im asking if someone can give me right rates for my server here is my box performance:
8 GB Ram
32 slots
100 MBPS
Quad-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2376 2.5Ghz

The amount of cores is not important as HLDS only uses 1 at any given time anyways.

Duffnexter 03-03-2010 23:33

Re: Need help determining your rates? Look Here
 
sv_minrate 0
sv_maxrate 371094
sv_minupdaterate 4
sv_maxupdaterate 1237
thats what i got so u think its correct?

Wild_Bot 03-05-2010 11:23

Re: Need help determining your rates? Look Here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Duffnexter (Post 1106926)
thats what i got so u think its correct?

All these rates calculators gives crappy values for modern internet connections. For example, sv_maxrate over 20000 is useless, because hlds limits it to 20000.

For first time, try these:
Quote:

sv_minrate 25000
sv_maxrate 20000
sv_minupdaterate 30
sv_maxupdaterate depends on kind of your server. 60 Should be enough for meatservers running Gungame or ZP mod. If you want to get better performance, set it to 101.

It was the first step.

The second step is to adjust rates to your server's bandwidth. You should play on server with active netgraph (net_graph 3) and monitor choke value - it should not get higher than 5-10. If you have a lot of choke, you should increase sv_minrate. Also, don't forget that you will get effect of server-side rates changing only after reconnect.

Ciio 03-13-2010 14:49

rates configuration server 32 slots
 
Commands are the rates to maintain a server of 32 slots with a low and stable ping?

drekes 03-14-2010 10:57

Re: rates configuration server 32 slots
 
check this:
http://www.reece-eu.net/drekrates.php

xtinct 03-15-2010 07:03

Re: rates configuration server 32 slots
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ciio (Post 1117116)

SEARCH BEFORE YOU POST :rtfm:

[MSI] Creator 03-15-2010 11:46

Re: rates configuration server 32 slots
 
May be this will help you...
http://amxmodxbg.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13558

SWA[T]erson 03-15-2010 22:48

The perfect rates
 
From Speedtest.net, this is my result:
Download 8.64Mb/s
Upload 0.72Mb/s

Can someone help me determine the best possible rates for me? I run a 16 man server.

Also, help me determine the best possible fps_max & sys_ticrate. I run Pentium D 3.00GHz and have 4.00GB of RAM.

xtinct 03-16-2010 01:47

Re: The perfect rates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SWA[T]erson (Post 1118839)
From Speedtest.net, this is my result:
Download 8.64Mb/s
Upload 0.72Mb/s

Can someone help me determine the best possible rates for me? I run a 16 man server.

Also, help me determine the best possible fps_max & sys_ticrate. I run Pentium D 3.00GHz and have 4.00GB of RAM.

Well from the Sticky Post, I got the link for rate Calculation HERE. Accroding to the Config Given by You I used:

Up Speed: 735 kbps/sec
CPU Speed: 3000 Mhz Core: 1 (Not Necessary)
Ram: 4096 MB
Players:16


What I got was:

sv_minrate 0
sv_maxrate 5453
sv_minupdaterate 4
sv_maxupdaterate 18


I would advice you to use sys_ticrate 100 and fps_max 101 (1 higher to sys_ticrate).:wink:

Well You can look yourselves too or wait for other good replies.

SWA[T]erson 03-16-2010 02:28

Re: The perfect rates
 
Thanks for the help, but can you please tell me the reason to use sys_ticrate 100 and fps_max 101 and not higher? Will setting it higher gives performance boost?

Bacardi 03-16-2010 06:15

Re: The perfect rates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xtinct (Post 1118901)
Well from the Sticky Post, I got the link for rate Calculation HERE. Accroding to the Config Given by You I used:

Up Speed: 735 kbps/sec
CPU Speed: 3000 Mhz Core: 1 (Not Necessary)
Ram: 4096 MB
Players:16


What I got was:

sv_minrate 0
sv_maxrate 5453
sv_minupdaterate 4
sv_maxupdaterate 18


I would advice you to use sys_ticrate 100 and fps_max 101 (1 higher to sys_ticrate).:wink:

Well You can look yourselves too or wait for other good replies.

Not make any sense...
Why use sys_ticrate 100 if sv_maxupdaterate 18 ??

It should be minupdaterate 30 and maxupdaterate 60 or higher ?

And what important is upload... 735 kbps/sec is very minimal.
Can't host 16 players server perfectly. Now it show maxrate 5000 (if enough and players not lag then ok)
You maybe have to decrease amount of player slots to get this rate higher... (or get better broadband/upload)

With max. 10 players server you can give maxrate 9000

and sv_minupdaterate should be also 30

xtinct 03-16-2010 06:18

Re: The perfect rates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SWA[T]erson (Post 1118919)
Thanks for the help, but can you please tell me the reason to use sys_ticrate 100 and fps_max 101 and not higher? Will setting it higher gives performance boost?

Well I use Windows from my point of view It is not going to give you any major change in the performance. As far as we talk of linux u can certainly get it setting sys_ticrate 1000 and fps_max 1001.

Well about the question of Why I use sys_ticrate 100 cause:
  • It is far practically more stable on Windows. Using more than required is n0thing but a nonsense.:nono:
  • I have asked:oops: other renowned member of the forums I found that most of them use sys_ticrate 100 only.
  • Anything Surely missing. I'll get to that when remember. :mrgreen:

xtinct 03-16-2010 06:22

Re: The perfect rates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bacardi (Post 1119003)
Not make any sense...
Why use sys_ticrate 100 if sv_maxupdaterate 18 ??

It should be minupdaterate 30 and maxupdaterate 60 or higher ?

And what important is upload... 735 kbps/sec is very minimal.
Can't host 16 players server perfectly. Now it show maxrate 5000 (if enough and players not lag then ok)
You maybe have to decrease amount of player slots to get this rate higher... (or get better broadband/upload)

With max. 10 players server you can give maxrate 9000

and sv_minupdaterate should be also 30

Well I've used the famous Sticky post of this Forum!:mrgreen:

Blame it! Not me! I've not calculated those formulas.

kanatzu 03-16-2010 10:11

Re: The perfect rates
 
unstable rates indeed...

SWA[T]erson 03-17-2010 03:34

Re: The perfect rates
 
In conclusion, the perfect rates for my server are?

Bacardi 03-17-2010 07:10

Re: The perfect rates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SWA[T]erson (Post 1120142)
In conclusion, the perfect rates for my server are?

You can't get perfect rates your 16 player server with small upload... my opinion

If you try 16 player server... (what is impossible with that broadband)
sys_tickrate sys_ticrate 100
sv_minupdaterate 33
sv_maxupdaterate 100
sv_minrate 3000
sv_maxrate 5400

One problem is can't host whole upload 735kbps... server need sent also different information/packets, so I added to this 5%.
Now it's 698kbps to players.
Could appear choke and lag

If want better rates have to drop player slots.
example
... host 4 player server you can set
sv_maxupdaterate 20000

kanatzu 03-17-2010 08:39

Re: The perfect rates
 
I actually checked, and you might be able to have 8-10 players. (With somewhat stable rates)

xtinct 03-18-2010 05:44

Re: The perfect rates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bacardi (Post 1120243)
sys_tickrate 100

lol, I have never used that k in sys_tickrate. I use sys_ticrate.

Please tell me If I'm Wrong!:oops:

BunnYboii 03-18-2010 07:15

Re: The perfect rates
 
UR right its sys_ticrate

ChosT 04-12-2010 19:26

Help! Server configuration mm_insane, rates, etc
 
I am testing mmtimer version 1.6 http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=122374

I want my server has a good register.
I have a 128 fps server with veeservers and i want upgrade to 1000 FPS with mmtimer.
What mm_insane do you reccomend 0, 1 or 2, with 1 and 2 cpu: 50-80, with 0: low cpu

also, I would like you to tell me a good configuration for my server hosted.
sv_maxrate
sv_minrate
sv_maxupdaterate
sv_minupdaterate
fps_max
sys_ticrate

Thanks ^^ :wink:

Muscle Brazil 04-12-2010 19:35

Re: Help! Server configuration mm_insane, rates, etc
 
sv_maxrate 20000
sv_minrate 6000
sv_maxupdaterate 66
sv_minupdaterate 33
fps_max 500
sys_ticrate 10000

aznbreez1 04-12-2010 22:04

Re: Help! Server configuration mm_insane, rates, etc
 
Vee server will ban your account and shut down your server if you put it on, why dont you just Order from www.intservers.net

-=3JIou-TaTaPuH=- 04-13-2010 03:51

Re: Help! Server configuration mm_insane, rates, etc
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aznbreez1 (Post 1148618)
Vee server will ban your account and shut down your server if you put it on, why dont you just Order from www.intservers.net

Jeon Ji Hyun! Is the inservers.net his/her hosting company?

xtinct 04-13-2010 03:58

Re: Help! Server configuration mm_insane, rates, etc
 
mmtimer has cvars also? I did not know :(

aznbreez1 04-14-2010 19:36

Re: Need help determining your rates? Look Here
 
best solution is set it to 0 this works 100percent, i have done this and test this many times in all connectons

ChosT 04-15-2010 22:02

Need help with rates
 
for a cs 1.6 server hosted 24 slots with unlimited broadband, what rates do u recommend?

sv_minrate
sv_maxrate
sv_minupdaterate
sv_maxupdaterate

YamiKaitou 04-15-2010 22:12

Re: Need help with rates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChosT (Post 1151589)
for a cs 1.6 server hosted 24 slots with unlimited broadband, what rates do u recommend?

Read the rest of the thread

ChosT 04-15-2010 22:17

Re: Need help determining your rates? Look Here
 
Help me, what rates ?
this?:
sv_maxrate 20000
sv_minrate 6000
sv_maxupdaterate 66
sv_minupdaterate 33
fps_max 500
sys_ticrate 10000

xtinct 04-22-2010 03:20

Re: Need help determining your rates? Look Here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChosT (Post 1151597)
Help me, what rates ?
this?:...........

Too much greed brings ruin. Also if you want to use mmtimer then use the following settings If you have good internet connection:
Quote:

sv_maxrate 20000
sv_minrate 6000
sv_maxupdaterate 101
sv_minupdaterate 30
fps_max 501
sys_ticrate 500


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