AlliedModders
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page

AlliedModders (https://forums.alliedmods.net/index.php)
-   Source Servers (SRCDS) (https://forums.alliedmods.net/forumdisplay.php?f=130)
-   -   Solved Workshop maps and clients (https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=293342)

MrDanne 01-29-2017 14:39
Workshop maps and clients
 
Hi,

I am using workshop maps on my CSGO server.
Now I wonder, does the clients/players download from Valves servers or from my server?

Neuro Toxin 01-29-2017 16:11
Re: Workshop maps and clients
 
Valve servers.

Mitchell 01-29-2017 20:25
Re: Workshop maps and clients
 
Steam servers, which are pretty slow if you have large maps.

hamilton5 01-29-2017 23:43
Re: Workshop maps and clients
 
I don't think the actual download is slow, sometimes there is that delay when it is first checking/connecting however.

MrDanne 01-30-2017 08:57
Re: Workshop maps and clients
 
Ah great. thought the client was downloading it from my server after it has downloaded it.

The "Initializing map" is a bit annoying. Could take a while on some users.

checkster 01-30-2017 13:16
Re: Workshop maps and clients
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitchell (Post 2490992)
Steam servers, which are pretty slow if you have large maps.
Sry but I think you're wrong. To my knowledge speed is caped, so even if you have xxxxxxxxxx speed you only get xxxxx, no matter if its steam or fastdl.

DarkDeviL 01-30-2017 15:17
Re: Workshop maps and clients
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by checkster (Post 2491189)
Sry but I think you're wrong. To my knowledge speed is caped, so even if you have xxxxxxxxxx speed you only get xxxxx, no matter if its steam or fastdl.
The issue isn't really a "speed cap", but the fact that you are downloading each individual file one by one.

If you have 1000 files to download, you need to perform 1000 requests with sv_downloadurl, this is going to take quite some time (and "overhead") with the transfer, thereby raising the time required to fetch it all.

If you could direct sv_downloadurl towards a full .zip, .tar.gz, .tar.bz2, ... containing all data from your server, so each individual client would only download one file, then it would work much faster.

Doing it that way could however also introduce both positive and negative side effects.

checkster 01-30-2017 20:10
Re: Workshop maps and clients
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by arne1288 (Post 2491248)
The issue isn't really a "speed cap", but the fact that you are downloading each individual file one by one.

If you have 1000 files to download, you need to perform 1000 requests with sv_downloadurl, this is going to take quite some time (and "overhead") with the transfer, thereby raising the time required to fetch it all.

If you could direct sv_downloadurl towards a full .zip, .tar.gz, .tar.bz2, ... containing all data from your server, so each individual client would only download one file, then it would work much faster.

Doing it that way could however also introduce both positive and negative side effects.
oh whats bzip I'm new elaborate.

Bzip is really limited, unless you make res files.

Your way cant be done, maybe in a dream world, and even if you could it may reduce dload time, but still cl will have to make it complete, so you wont save time, unless there was a to make it a complete file instantly.

Mitchell 01-30-2017 20:32
Re: Workshop maps and clients
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by checkster (Post 2491189)
Sry but I think you're wrong. To my knowledge speed is caped, so even if you have xxxxxxxxxx speed you only get xxxxx, no matter if its steam or fastdl.
What? I said the steam workshop servers are slow, I had to switch over to my fastdl since it was making people wait too long while downloading maps. If you're saying the download speed to the steam servers are capped then that's exactly what I'm saying. Also for other games, not csgo you can upload multiple files under one workshop which will expand once downloaded.

DarkDeviL 01-31-2017 09:54
Re: Workshop maps and clients
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by checkster (Post 2491352)
oh whats bzip I'm new elaborate.

Bzip is really limited, unless you make res files.

Your way cant be done, maybe in a dream world, and even if you could it may reduce dload time, but still cl will have to make it complete, so you wont save time, unless there was a to make it a complete file instantly.
I think, both with this one and the statements during your post editing, that you need to read my post again:

I don't assume that you go to Kiwi or REMA 1000 to pick up your soap, then go home, and then go back to Kiwi or REMA 1000 for your food, then go home and then go back to Kiwi or REMA 1000 for your toilet paper. Or do you?

That would make it three trips towards your shopping chain, and why would you do that, when you can do it all in one go? In one go, it would be faster and more time consuming for you.

Currently, the fastdl system (and most likely Workshop too) works like the above. It is contacting the remote sever once per file, and as such, the result is the same as if you were going to Kiwi or REMA 1000 multiple times, rather than taking all what you want in one go. Slower speeds.

In the previous post, I said "If you could direct [...]":

Code:
$ head -n 2 materials.txt
materials/sprites/trails/psychball.vtf
materials/sprites/trails/mat_rain.vmt
Code:
$ cat download_individual_materials.sh
#!/bin/sh
for material in `cat materials.txt`;
do
  wget "https://fastdl.example.net/TEST_20170131/$material" -oO /dev/null
done
$ time ./download_individual_materials.sh

real    10m27.270s
user    2m42.728s
sys    0m28.396s
$ time wget "https://fastdl.example.net/TEST_20170131/materials.tar.gz" -oO /dev/null

real    0m19.042s
user    0m11.828s
sys    0m4.276s
$ time wget "https://fastdl.example.net/TEST_20170131/materials.tar.bz2" -oO /dev/null

real    0m19.421s
user    0m10.744s
sys    0m3.776s
Server-side:

Code:
$ du -sh materials materials.tar.gz materials.tar.bz2
714M    materials
336M    materials.tar.gz
305M    materials.tar.bz2
$
Individual files (sv_downloadurl way) gives 10 minutes and roughly 30 seconds of downloading.

One big file gives 19 - 19.5 seconds of downloading.

And again: I said "If you could direct [...]", as things appear right now at least, you cannot make the downloads go this way.

There is a huge difference between "being capped" and "feels like it is capped", in regards to your claim about the speeds being capped.

I hope this makes more sense to you.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:30.
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page

Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.