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bibu 07-28-2014 09:13

Re: Module: Fake Server Queries
 
I only remember joining a random dproto running server. As always it's full of them. The funny thing is, the player amount is somehow differently handled. I'll try to explain:

There are actually 10 players on a server.
The same server on the internet browser shows 5 players.
Because 5 of them are valid steam players and 5 of them not.
I add them on my favourites, and I see 10 of them in my favorites browser.

No idea, maybe there are also some more situations where such thing happens. But I think it's a good hint for everyone.

Neeeeeeeeeel.- 07-28-2014 12:12

Re: Module: Fake Server Queries
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bibu (Post 2175084)
I only remember joining a random dproto running server. As always it's full of them. The funny thing is, the player amount is somehow differently handled. I'll try to explain:

There are actually 10 players on a server.
The same server on the internet browser shows 5 players.
Because 5 of them are valid steam players and 5 of them not.
I add them on my favourites, and I see 10 of them in my favorites browser.

No idea, maybe there are also some more situations where such thing happens. But I think it's a good hint for everyone.

The favorites tabs uses fakeable A2S_* queries, but the Internet Tab is validated by Steam using Steam_NotifyClientConnect function. It would be hard to bypass... btw it's ilegal.

bibu 07-28-2014 12:47

Re: Module: Fake Server Queries
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neeeeeeeeeel.- (Post 2175177)
It would be hard to bypass... btw it's ilegal.

Yet 99% of the servers in internet tab are non-steam servers. I really wonder how they appear in the offical browser... This should be clearly since years be elimated from Valve.

Neeeeeeeeeel.- 07-28-2014 14:28

Re: Module: Fake Server Queries
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bibu (Post 2175199)
Yet 99% of the servers in internet tab are non-steam servers. I really wonder how they appear in the offical browser... This should be clearly since years be elimated from Valve.

They are steam servers allowing older protocols... Valve doesn't check if older protocols are allowed or not.

.Dare Devil. 07-28-2014 18:51

Re: Module: Fake Server Queries
 
Pretty useful for me. Im not sure yet for what but i'll find something...
Thanks for sharing.

Kakarotto 07-29-2014 00:08

Re: Module: Fake Server Queries
 
i am not using any plugin i just installed a new server !

Shooting King 07-29-2014 01:29

Re: Module: Fake Server Queries
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neeeeeeeeeel.- (Post 2175177)
The favorites tabs uses fakeable A2S_* queries, but the Internet Tab is validated by Steam using Steam_NotifyClientConnect function. It would be hard to bypass... btw it's ilegal.

Whats illegal in this ?

Voltron 07-29-2014 04:47

Re: Module: Fake Server Queries
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bibu (Post 2175199)
Yet 99% of the servers in internet tab are non-steam servers. I really wonder how they appear in the offical browser... This should be clearly since years be elimated from Valve.

Do you have "has users playing" ticked when browsing for servers?

bibu 07-29-2014 09:16

Re: Module: Fake Server Queries
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Voltron (Post 2175580)
Do you have "has users playing" ticked when browsing for servers?

Of course, that's why they show up, because there are low amount of steamers on that server. I see 3/32, if I right click and make server info, I see the server almost full lol.

Neeeeeeeeeel.- 07-29-2014 09:42

Re: Module: Fake Server Queries
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shooting King (Post 2175521)
Whats illegal in this ?

Are you asking why would be ilegal to bypass Steam_NotifyClientConnect? Maybe because you would be faking information in Valve's backend...


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