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devicenull
08-22-2008, 14:41
This plugin removes the "waiting to play" queue in arena maps, allowing you to have 16v16 or whatever arena maps. There's no extra cvars to configure, just install the plugin.
Note: This plugin will not unbalance the teams, so if you have an odd number of players, one person will be sitting out
DontWannaName
08-22-2008, 14:53
ah thank god, I will go put this on now!
Unrealomega
08-22-2008, 15:19
Seems to work, but the one gripe I have is it's throwing people who are spectating in to make up for the unbalanced teams.
Freelancer
08-22-2008, 15:23
Sweet , give a try for the weekend.
This is kind of a crude way to do it, but I guess it gets the job done. I'm working on an extension to do this a better way, but this plugin should work fine until then.
devicenull
08-22-2008, 15:26
Seems to work, but the one gripe I have is it's throwing people who are spectating in to make up for the unbalanced teams.
Indeed, spectators and players waiting appear to be on the same team, so there's no real way to tell them apart easily
This is kind of a crude way to do it, but I guess it gets the job done. I'm working on an extension to do this a better way, but this plugin should work fine until then.
There's other ways to do this yea, I don't really see a downside this way other then it's not particularly clean. Seems to work fine functionality wise, and I don't see anything wrong with it.
DontWannaName
08-22-2008, 16:03
I got a blue sniper spawn with the red on Revine... If the teams arent even a player has to sit a round out.
Xtrm2Matt
08-22-2008, 16:09
Installed this on my three arena servers :)
devicenull
08-22-2008, 16:52
I got a blue sniper spawn with the red on Revine... If the teams arent even a player has to sit a round out.
That's interesting.. I wonder if the map doesn't have enough spawns to support large player amounts.
I still think that having the teams be even is worth one player sitting out.. but apparently other people don't
DontWannaName
08-22-2008, 17:19
It is 24 slots, maybe he was hacking lol.
crazychicken
08-22-2008, 17:39
u sure it wasnt a bit of lag, i got taht with a spy on my team appearing as enemy soldier when disguised at round start but was just because of lag i think
I just had the same problem, a red scout spawned on blue spawn. Ah man it was hilarious. The teams were 9v9.
could you make a quick variation which assigns players to team regardless of team balance?
what does this plugin do when the server is not in arena mode?
what does this plugin do when the server is not in arena mode?
Nothing at all. It waits for a map named "arena_"
willy1234x1
08-22-2008, 23:00
Alright I've had a few problems after installing this plug-in and I'm wondering if anyone else ran into it.
I've been seeing people with one class model but another classe's weapon.
Example - Medic model with a rocket launcher (the player was a soldier)
Anyone else see this?
hmm.. Arena mode not starting... just sitting with everyone in spec.
This isn't a problem with the plugin but rather the server config.
Anyone know what is needed to switch to arena mode when changing maps from standard style play to an arena map?
tanks!
I've been wondering that to, i always have to use the command mp_waitingforplayers_cancel 1 to start the game off, it's rather annoying.
ShellShock
08-23-2008, 02:34
Awsome plugin, thank you.
crazychicken
08-23-2008, 05:32
this crashes my server
the only problem is that is constantly scrambling ppl, every round, and thats anoying tbh. If u are 10 vs 10, 5 vs 5 or whatever it changes ppl team every round.
I test it with mp_autoteambalance 0 and still the same, if u fix this it will be a perfect plugin.
Warning
I was playing on server with this plugin. Lotus Arena Server 32 Players. This plugin caused players to ocassionally spawn in the opposite teams spawn point. For example i was on red and placed in the blue spawn. As soon as the round started i was killed by the surrounding blue people. This also happened to others while i was playing in the server.
DontWannaName
08-23-2008, 22:35
We already said that a few pages earlier :P
devicenull
08-24-2008, 00:15
I don't really know that it's possible to fix the player spawning in the wrong spawn thing.. I suspect it has something to do with there being not enough spawns on certain maps. Just to be clear: The plugin does not actually spawn players anywhere, it simply assigns them to the correct team if they are a spectator. There's not a whole lot I can do to fix the spawning issue.
@willy1234x1: That's actually a bug in TF2 (As I've seen it on normal servers). Again, the plugin really cannot cause that at all.
@Dual: It's probably possible for me to fix that, though I thought that was a feature of arena mode even without this.
DontWannaName
08-24-2008, 01:34
The spawn issue is random on every arena map, happens like once per map.
@Dual: It's probably possible for me to fix that, though I thought that was a feature of arena mode even without this.
It would be great m8, as it is a good thing to keep the teams the same until one gets 5 victories, then the scramble it's perfect.
crazychicken
08-24-2008, 08:02
tried it againa nd its working great now, heh, must have needed a restart i guess :P :up:
Yeah, my players are complaining about scrambling every round too. Normal arena mode only scrambles after a 5-win streak.
Also, if the number of players are uneven, whoever is sitting out stays sitting out until someone else joins. We had the same player in spectator mode for 4 rounds yesterday, which didn't make him too happy. Can you swap the spectator into the losing team after every round?
msleeper
08-25-2008, 21:09
I really like the idea of this plugin but I would like to see the issues addressed before I add it to my Arena servers.
Not to steal the thread, but my extension accomplishes the same goal as this plugin, but properly by using a different method.
http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=76466
I put this on my server, and it forced the SourceTV bot on a team. :) Also it broke things really bad, nobody could join a team, not sure why.
soupyblister
10-01-2008, 22:46
Just wondering, Does this allow people to respawn, cause I am having that problem, and that sucks.
msleeper
10-01-2008, 22:54
Are you using any Fast Respawn plugins? If so, they have been known to force people to respawn.
Also as bl4nk said, the extension he wrote works perfectly.
soupyblister
10-01-2008, 23:44
yea i am.. guess i disable that
DJ Tsunami
10-02-2008, 08:35
Mine doesn't respawn people in arena mode :) Link (http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=73929)
soupyblister
10-02-2008, 19:14
Mine doesn't respawn people in arena mode :) Link (http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=73929)
Hmm then it must be something else, cause I am using your plugin, which btw is great. I don't know if this will have anything to do with, but I am mixing arena maps with Regular Valve maps as well.
DJ Tsunami
10-03-2008, 05:32
That shouldn't be a problem. I haven't had a problem with it on our server anyway, and we have all kinds of maps.
ColdFire
01-06-2009, 12:12
There is a problem with SourceTV bot, the plugin believes it's a player and make it join a team :/
Might you fix that please?
Thank you!
DJ Tsunami
01-06-2009, 13:02
It makes spectators join a team too, hence why RunTeamLogic (http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=76466) is a better way to go :)
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