What does this sound like?

[nubh4t]

"Voice or no voice, people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, deounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country."

-Hermann-Goering Hitler's Reich-Marshall


Who does this sound like?


http://cp3.zanuc.com/~jclouser/bushmustlose/front.htm

[Votorx]

lmao. Doesn't matter, Bush is better than Kerry anyways.

[nubh4t]

ok? you win. You have convinced me.

[Dygear]

You have watched the big lebowski too many times.

[nubh4t]

neg :avast:

[Votorx]

you win. You have convinced me.

Yeah, I'm just that good.

[ThantiK]

-record surpluses to record deficits
(9/11 Attack caused LOTS of spending, nobody could avoid this)

-skyrocketing health care costs
(Thats cause retarded people sue doctors over stupid shit)

-failure to secure ports, citing he wouldn't use a chunk of his 270 billion yearly tax cut to do so, even though it would only cost 20 billion purely from the richest americans. (5k out of their 87k cut)
(Call me stupid, but why should richer people pay a BIGGER chunk of taxes?...15% on $1000 yearly income, but for some reason they want to do 35% on the $100,000 guys income?...1 percentage rate for everyone equally. No reason for rich people to have to support your poor ass)

-airplanes still don't have cargo bays x-rayed
(And your complaining about a record deficit...Airplane companies have to have the $$$ to spend on this...but since the attacks, NOBODY WANTS TO FLY!...nobody flying = no profit for the company = no spending for xray! Wow, common sense!)

-less loose nuclear material secured in the 2 years after 9/11 than the two before it under Clinton
(Thats because the nuclear material was mostly secured in the years of clinton. You secure 80% of all loose material, how the hell can bush secure 80%?...there is only 20% left.)

-9/11 security failure
(Would have happened no matter WHAT president was in office. Clinton refused to hand over the appropriate data because he wanted Gore to win)

-economic meltdown
(9/11, and a combination of BUSH getting the companies padding their books caught. oh, and Lawyers... :grrr: )

-weak economic recovery (half of 03 stock gains have been lost in 04)
(President doesn't directly control economic recovery, if you knew anything about the stock market, it goes in a 4 year cycle. With this being our FIRST TERRORIST ATTACK, we've been in a slump for longer than we should be. You should understand the way our system is set up, it can take 8 years or more to see the benefits from the presidents actions. I could VERY easily provide enough hard-standing facts to say that Clinton caused this, not bush. But people dont want to look more than 5 minutes ahead or behind them.)

-4.2 million more people in poverty, 1.5 million more fell in during the recovery year of '03.
(9/11 Attacks, and record numbers of people getting caught trying to polish the recordbooks. Bush put an end to this, clinton let it slide)

-first presidential term since Hoover with net job loss, ~1 million jobs lost
(First Terrorist Attack, and companies who were padding the books trying to get rid of the extra bull from their pockets. Even if it DOES happen to be you or me.)

-failure in three years to capture the man who killed 3000 Americans
(Have you heard ANYTHING from this man?...he's dead I'm sure.)

-war launched on false intelligence that led to over 1000+ and still
counting dead troops, not to mention a quagmire of Vietnam proportions
where according to the CIA civil war and total chaos is a distinct
possiblity. This war also included a sexual torture scandal and damaged
our world-standing so much that the cooperation needed to fight terrorists became far more difficult to obtain. Iraq posed no threat to America and has stretched our military so thin that the draft has again become a distinct possiblity.

(This being by far the funniest one I've heard. When Osama bombed America, Saddam said "Americans deserve this, and if Osama wants to come here to Iraq, he will be protected"....Do you REALLY want to let some fucker like that stay in iraq? Bush has taken a PROACTIVE step against these things happening again. Would YOU RATHER wait for ANOTHER TERRORIST ATTACK, or would you like to kick the peoples ass who threaten America and make sure ANOTHER 3k people dont die....)

[|2ob]

Im sure you have your points there, BUT some people like bush, most people do not. One post by you or me will not swing the undecided voter, and usually people who start political arguements just need something to ramble about.

I Am Canadian, GO PAUL MARTIN!

My solution is to give every piece of weaponry to Canada, then America will not be a target, just imagine this:

Terrorists = Rebelling Teenagers with big guns
USA, BRITAN = Dads, Moms also with big guns

But the parents are in a loosing battle, most of thier nieghbors do not want to be part of another war because:

1) No money
2) The don't want thier lawn destroyed
3) The don't want thier house egged

I would rather see A new face in USA's head office, i am getting tired of fear being everywhere on the american ( and canadian ) news + he seems a bit stupid IMO.

[Vapok]

Kerry For President

[nubh4t]

2nd

[manorastroman]

3rd :gyar:

[DarlD]

whatever

[ThorW634]

My vote is for Kerry also. Remove that Ignorant, Ignorant man from office. And before i get flamed in this debate just keep in my mind that i voted for Bush in 2000. :!: :?: :!:

[c0ldfyr3]

I cant beleive you american ejits voted Bush back in.

I know im not American, but at this stage I think the rest of the world knows more american politics than the americans themselves.

You know what ? You deserve this second term.

Before anyone says something like "You just went to an anti bush protest and got some facts" your wrong. I know exactly what hes doing and been doing.

Ex: Making Child Safety locks on guns in Texas non manditory. Ya good one bush... GO BUSH !

[c0ldfyr3]

-record surpluses to record deficits
Bush went to war. Did he not know how much one tank cost at the time ?

-skyrocketing health care costs
America has no free healthcare system to the under privelaged. Here in Ireland we treat EVERYONE, money or not.

-failure to secure ports, citing he wouldn't use a chunk of his 270 billion yearly tax cut to do so, even though it would only cost 20 billion purely from the richest americans. (5k out of their 87k cut)
Because most rich people didnt do anything to become rich. And given the same chances a poor person would do just as well. Its easier for someone on 100,000 y/r to loost 15% than someone on 1,000 to loose 1% FACT.

-airplanes still don't have cargo bays x-rayed
Thats because of the amount of illegal trading going on, they can afford them, they dont want them. Do you know how many people would be caught with a day of X-Rays at an airport for Drugs, Money and Tabacco ? And with Americas stupid laws on drugs, it would cost billions to incarcerate the non terrorists for your manditory 25 years for possession (Ridiculous terms from a ridiculous country)

-less loose nuclear material secured in the 2 years after 9/11 than the two before it under Clinton
This is because Bush likes the idea of American owning ALL of the nuclear missiles in the world. FACT. Do you think he cares about the word Nuclear unless missile appends to the end ?

-9/11 security failure
No it wouldnt, they knew about it FACT. Besides that, no other president was as stupid. They bombed it once and failed, does that not scream second attempt ?

-economic meltdown
This is because unless you supply war time products, Bush doesnt care about your business. America HAS to goto war once every 8 years to supply the big companies like Colt with money and keep the economy afloat. Why ? Because he has a large share in them all. And if you could give yourself $1 Billion why wouldnt ya ?

-weak economic recovery (half of 03 stock gains have been lost in 04)
Give it a few years and all the current working population are on Social Security, America doesnt have the funds for them and Bush knows this, and has put "plans" in action. I cant wait to see the result.

-4.2 million more people in poverty, 1.5 million more fell in during the recovery year of '03.
Small towns in the mid us are not suffering because of a terrorist attack. They had no jobs before and still dont. 99% unemployment rate for a town is absolutely ridiculous and is only found in the US and Russia. Nice fact eh ?

-first presidential term since Hoover with net job loss, ~1 million jobs lost
Unless your going to War bush doesnt care.

-failure in three years to capture the man who killed 3000 Americans
They havent looked. They didnt goto Iraq to find him, they went to get Sadam out, so you can have all the oil you want. America is the only country I know who are not actually trying to reduce emission. He talks about it, but talk is cheap. Do you think Katrina and Rita were random ?? The day the Afghanistan war was over, Bush put a pipe through Afghanistan and put his man in charge. FACT

-war launched on false intelligence that led to over 1000+ and still
Ask any soldier whose been to Iraq. They were not fighting an army, they were fighting civilians with no guns and no leader. Of course now the entire population of Iraq is pissed with you, so naturally they are going to Roadside bomb your ass. How else do you take out a tank that with one press of a button aims directly at you, with controls like a PS2 joypad. The Iraqi tanks are(were) still wire controlled.